That's interesting about the beggar technique. In India they target westerners/foreigners (videshi) the same way by damaging the kid's head. In contrast to Romania, the local Indian police took their cut directly from the beggar women. I don't think there was any hierarchy in the begging culture there, but I may be wrong.
India driving rules: The bigger your vehicle the more right-of-way you have. Buses and trucks are on top and bicycles and pedestrians on the bottom. Although one time a German killed a cow. Stupidly, he stopped and the mob killed him. So, if a real Indian happened to hit a poor kid or force someone else off the road in India, or Africa or wherever, he would just keep going, assuming his car (or power) was bigger.
It sounds like the Roma have adopted a more complex but similar strategy using the Indian concept of bak shish, a bribe really, to deal with all this through an insurance shakedown in cooperation with the police. You expedite the power hierarchy resource extraction formula, as you say.
Here in the States we are approaching this type of thinking in a roundabout way through what I call the sacred-victim, entitled parasite culture (S-VEP). The mechanism, rather than child mutilation (or come to think of it we're there already), is something called "human rights", an idea that the Roma might consider exploitable. All you have to do is BE BORN to a particular race or sex in order to acquire bak shish (rights) in either cash or special treatment. The Philanthropy Complex would love to support the Roma as marginalized victims. They wouldn't need to fake an accident or openly mutilate kids. But then they'd lose agency so maybe the Roma wouldn't like that. I don't know.
When I think about it the Roma/Indian way is more honest and "erect." Yes, they do bad things but at least they're doing it with a certain kind of agency. They know what they are doing is bad but they do it anyway, like Lucifer, I will not serve. The S-VEP just turns humans into cattle, animals without agency, or even the ability to view bribery and corruption as a bad thing.
"It sounds like the Roma have adopted a more complex but similar strategy using the Indian concept of bak shish, a bribe really, to deal with all this through an insurance shakedown in cooperation with the police. You expedite the power hierarchy resource extraction formula, as you say."
This is a very interesting parallel that didn't occur to me. Yes--maybe it's survival of NW subcontinental dispute management (VERY INDO-EUROPEAN!)
The thing is though that Romanians in villages also favour informal settlement of 'personal injury claims' (obv the practice is in decline), and I'd be willing to bet the same happens among other rural Balkanoids. You can imagine why: how else are things to be settled when state authority is physically remote and nobody even has insurance?
'The Philanthropy Complex would love to support the Roma as marginalized victims. They wouldn't need to fake an accident or openly mutilate kids.'
Soros/EU/UN (the Philanthropy Complex is nice shorthand) have indeed been meddling in Romanian 'minority rights' for years.
'But then they'd lose agency so maybe the Roma wouldn't like that. I don't know.'
As far as I can make out there are two broad strains of 'thought' among 'Roma community leaders'. One is openly to pursue resources by submitting to Soros/EU/UN meliorism, which would mean subordination of the boolibashas to the Gadje and loss of Gypsy national agency; the other is indirect/covert expolitation of state weakness brought about by meliorist schemes (missus' interaction with police is an example of this strategy in practice).
When I think about it the Roma/Indian way is more honest and "erect."
I agree--much less slavish
'They know what they are doing is bad but they do it anyway, like Lucifer, I will not serve.'
To them, what's good for their group is good--and that's where it ends.
I haven't yet I have, if you take my meaning. It's poorly-written, emotive goyslop of the type usually dished out by his sort.
This one is a bit out of the ordinary in the sense that if you read just the first few sentence-paragraphs and take out the scare quotes and a few adjectives ('fictional' and so forth) he depicts the reality of things pretty well. He's quite right: if the immigrants were white--or, better, if there weren't any at all--none of what he describes would be happening.
Mission failed, we'll get em next time. It was worth a try too. Ours were trying to get into Canada, but the gig was quickly up, because they didn't understand why there are more refugee applications from Hungary than from Afghanistan and Iraq together. Allegedly the locals learned too some terms from our minority like 'csicska'=slave and pursued their tradition of human traficking. But Canada was our garbage dump for a while anyway where we regularly throw off the more insufferable activist types like Landeszmann György("If we were to list the contributions of Jews to Hungarian culture, and if we were to subtract those from Hungary, all that would remain would be baggy trousers and apricot schnapps.") and Mohácsi Viktória (she will come up here later).
I hinted at the previous article about some hierarchy existing and stupidly enough, it's not that different. Except at the top you have the usurers, who make good debt slaves out of their people, making them good for anything. I don't think that I have to explain the usurious interests, but it is not about paying it back, rather about having power over the person. So if you want something with the romungros, you want to visit them. I only hears about the Gábor gypsies engaging in that redistribution of wealth that you described.
Also as I hinted, the Vlachs/Oláhs are much more united. They have their own hierarchy, and they prefer their own much more. In action, it looks like this: in my hometown there are about 3 times as many Romungro than Oláh (75%-25%) and the local gypsy minority government are almost always controlled by the Oláhs. Or during local election, the Romungros can vote on a non-gypsy, but the Oláhs will only vote on a gypsy as a local councillor.
One more anecdotal evidence for the existence of some sort of system: when one of the local bigwigs car got stolen he started to phone around and said that if it won't be there the next morning, there will be heads rolling...his car was back by the next morning.
So yes...it would be interesting what powers the King of Roma title gives you.
Also I thought those buildings were only in Huedin in this number. They are the perfect example what your average Hungarian would call Cigánybarokk(Gypsybaroqe). They are a hilarious sight over there. What I know about those ones, are that they are mostly in England for most of they year, the palaces are almost all empty on the inside (they do decorate a few rooms to show people around) and there might be trouble with their...building quality. Also one of the buildings you put in here has the classic Mercedes symbol finials. So I asked that what's with those and they actually told me that it is an ancient gypsy symbol. A symbol of wealth and affluence...and I get it. I mean...having a Mercedes could mean that you have money so there's that, but it's not an ancient symbol. But I liked that story anyway...it made sense unlike many things they tell you.
Is there any reason why the romanian gypsies are the ones who invaded the West?
I meant these in that way, that there's a lot of gypsies over here and Slovakia (Ukraine) too. Somehow their numbers are much lower and a huge part of them are prostitutes. (At least they do work for their money.) Sometimes you hear that some kid comes and goes to the magical West but they're mostly with their parents while their mothers and sisters are "working".
I wrote under the last post that they're actually doing this pretty well organised. Like every few months they come and go with women to mostly Amsterdam but they have places in Germany and thd Switzerland too. I know that there were some trouble with the big one in Nyíregyháza so our gypsies separated and now doing their own job. Once I joked about how they are kindof working like a team sports club.
So one time, some dudes came from who knows where with their used BMWs and Audis and bought a girl from their family(!). You know, the son is just about to graduate and needs his own used BMW. They actually kindof signed the girl to their own "club". According to my mother there are actual scouts who look around if there's any promising talent in the 15-18 age bracket.
*A brief interruption in the program*
I'm not really present with my own name on any social media. I like that way better(and that was the ethos of the internet when I got my start and I want to follow this noble tradition). Who know me professionally will know how to reach me. I don't think that anyone would come after me or the things I wrote in these parts of the net are so terrible. But what I'm going to write here might bring my IRL person much closer to being out, than I am generally comfortable with.
*And now we're back*
So you can look up Lajos Szögi's name. He was a teacher who was beaten to death in front of her daughters in one of the cripple-hurling incidents. He was also my fathers friend and my teacher.
I hate Zsolt Bayer. He is a Fidesz/Orbán side thought leader propagandist, but what he said is what you should do. Don't stop, step on the gas, don't think about additional casualties and give yourself up at the nearest police station. I said that we did a shitton of work to beat the Fidesz at the town, but you can't leave out Szögi's death in this aspect. People still remember there and if there was a point where people started to questioning(at least locally) the liberal thought and progressives, that was it.
There was another incident where Marian Cozma(Romanian handballer) was stabbed in the heart by again...gypsies. Viktória Mohácsi's fleeing started then because she said that Marian Cozma deserved it, because he MIGHT have called them gypsies. So people told her to go fuck herself and she ran away straight to Canada because she doesn't feel herself safe here. Good riddance.
The truth is, people like to clown Pintér, the interior minister because he said that he will make order in 2 weeks. Yeah...again, your city intelligentsia are whining the loudest but he actually did stepped on some of the overreach of the gypsies. But as we told you, gypsies are always a taboo subject. You will hear about crimes of course, but nothing like around those mid oughts years. And also...the far-right got very strong and every murder and brazen incident just kept the ball rolling. So cripple-hurling is over...anyone with a little bit of memory knows to kill the "pulya" rather than getting themselves killed. (Something, something, one more nail in interpersonal trusts coffin)
There were also reports about them beatinf pregnant women up so the kid comes out retarded and more money and like. Let me tell you, that's fake. They don't need to do that...the incest, the environment and natural accidents ensure them to have enough retarded children. Last time a little girl was raped by her father and became incapacitated. They didn't want to make more cripples, they just self-indulge and making more in the process.
But I can tell you about the homeless mafia(yes...homeless mafia...you read it right). Maybe later.
Because there's mogging the law which is certainly happening. The police in Budapest are actually trustworthy, but don't trust a rural policeman on face-value. There's actually some reason to this. It was said many times about Pintér(the interior minister) that he's mafia and has "connections". (He was actually an investigator in the first ever organised crime group investigation in the country).
So here comes another hot take and I read a lot and spoke with a lot about this. The commie hungarian police was one of the best in the profession and some parts still work very well. This is also because they were involved in almost any crime group and knew their gypsies well. All this came to an end with the joining to the Union. They had to throw out anything connected to racial profiling etc.. and the know-how slowly retired and we were left with the new guard...which are a bunch of corrupt assholes. So we had this guy who started to target me and my friends too. Uhhh...the strictness...while he was impossibly popular among the minorities. I might have said that I was involved in local politics and did some work(solving stuff) for them. And I'm a very spiteful guy if I reach that point. So I might have gathered some "evidence", might have sent some letters, and might have had something with his firing. (Which was bad enough in itself, he postured as an epic scythian hungarist so he was also orbiting our group.) The problem was...that the whole police precinct was complicit in it. There was an action, and everyone was fired while some even went to jail. And so I also had to leave the party. (Okay...I could write a full essay on this -I will- but the grand outline is this.
So you might guess why I said that this might be a great source for identifying me. But fuck...every fucking one of them on the gypsy usurers payroll. And people were surprised that noone was ever caught while sometimes actually knowing the culprit....tshhhhhh
How is this pronounced? Does it sound anything like shiksa?
'they actually told me that it is an ancient gypsy symbol'
Folk memory is a marvellous thing... Did you believe em?
'I only hears about the Gábor gypsies engaging in that redistribution of wealth that you described.'
I suppose the distribution of intra-clan spoils is typical of the 'classic' 'paradigmatic' 'ideal' Gypsy social mode. Evidently the reality is more...complex.
'the incest, the environment and natural accidents ensure them to have enough retarded children'
Yes indeed
'Don't stop, step on the gas, don't think about additional casualties and give yourself up at the nearest police station'
He said this?! In what context? After the murder of Lajos Szögi?
'They had to throw out anything connected to racial profiling etc.. and the know-how slowly retired and we were left with the new guard...which are a bunch of corrupt assholes.'
The more I see, the more I come to believe that the fall of communism was (to put it mildly) a swings and roundabouts kind of vibe...
There's so much juice in this comment that you'd be remiss in not turning it into a doctoral thesis under the based and benevolent eye of Budapesti Corvinus Egyetem...
Somewhat like that. I don't know what would be the closest to the hungarian 'cs'. Like the ch? (In Chester or something?)
Of course I didn't believe them. But at least, this once I could see a logical connection between the two (Mercedes car ->wealth).
In a way, we got the same within families. The chinese have those red bags too, where they give money to each other. Think about how in birthdays(as a kid) you get money from the guests and the parents always ask, who gave how much? Because if there's a kid there, they should match it to not lose face.
Yeah, he said that. Because after he swept away the little kid with his car, he stopped to see if everythings alright. The kid had only superficial injuries, ran into the house and you got the screaming gypsy lady go "Kill the Hungarian, because he killed the kid!". Yes...it would count as a hit-and-run...but with these 60 IQ people you might be playing with your lives. Not once the medics were attacked by these idiots because they might have not been able to save the delinquent.
The whole system change was very weird in Hungary. Like the state party sat down with the opposition and they negotiated how they will share the public/common wealth. No one was held accountable. Some of the OG murderous commies died with huge pensions in disgusting prosperity (at least Nicolae and Elena got their well deserved bullets although obviously there are many shenanigans left there too). The state agent lists are kept secret (someone always comes up how they should make them public but it is one of the things where the right and left are absolutely supportive of eachother). Orbáns father was a party secretary. His nemesis's wife's grandfather was the minister of interior during the punishment after 56(he also died without anything). And they are still living in the villa they took from the original owner. Police is a contentious issue obviously, but I would say that they were excellent for the time, but that too changed with the passing of 'existing socialism'. Things changed otherwise too. Like this retired investigator said that how after releasing one of the big dogs, he announced a fucking press conference and from there on they must engage in PR warfare too. Again...I could list the things here until nightfall.
I mean...kinda. Sociologists could have a field day if they came to my hometown but they rather go on to be human rights activists, never experiencing what really goes on 'outside the greater ring road'.(It's an idiom about how they never leave inner Budapest.
Overall, the joining to the EU brought many things, but I think more and more people think that it was quite a Faustian decision. Which is funny because we like to think ourselves as being fully aware of these things and there's the movie Mephisto(Oscar price winner) which is really about this subject.
Ooops. Now that you mentioned that. But no...apparently it comes from army language.
We use a lot of words originating from the jews and gypsies, so I assumed that it would be too like that.
There must be something between the two though. I think I mentioned that few family names are the same among them, while only mixing rarely. The Jews still holding onto somewhat their old burgher identities, so they really don't like them except the few social activist types.
But then again, I could start categorising the jews (ugh...that sounds wrong) whether they are originally from the cities od countryside, Sephardim-Ashkenazi...even hasidim. Like the communists were full of them but they were almost all from countryside ashkenazi descent. But you can see this in other countries too. It was never the almost assimilated/burghers who were stirring shit.
(Damn it..I did it again...sorry for the digression)
'Ooops. Now that you mentioned that. But no...apparently it comes from army language.'
oh. That's disappointing. But haha ok whatever
'It was never the almost assimilated/burghers who were stirring shit.'
Sure maybe they weren't usually the openly militant genocidal types, but they certainly did more than their share of ethnic self-defence--albeit only, if John Murray Cuddihy is right, out of a mixture of tribal loyalty and sheer embarassment...
'(Damn it..I did it again...sorry for the digression)'
Finally got a chance to read through this. And man, Romania is a trip. Of course, after seeing all of this -- the kind of stuff I'll never unsee -- I asked my wife if Hungary is richer than Romania, and she affirmed that no, it is not.
Brutal.
But still! Some of this stuff I just don't even know where to find it over here. Maybe it's all in the countryside and I lack the research; ah well.
'I asked my wife if Hungary is richer than Romania, and she affirmed that no, it is not.'
This is very magnanimous. Let her be reassured however that the difference would tilt massively in Hungary's favour if it wasn't for the GDP-enhancing activities of Romania's much larger Gypsy population *in occidente*.
(no I jest)
'Some of this stuff I just don't even know where to find it over here. Maybe it's all in the countryside and I lack the research'
BASED Orban would never allow it. Come on you know that come on.
She’s a very magnanimous woman; brings out the best in me, you know.
Mayyyyybe you’re right about the fact that Orbán wouldn’t let that happen, but, well… they let a lot of stuff happen. The Hungarian situation is complicated. Gay catholic priests promoting homophobia? CHECK! See for yourself:
No no I was only joking; I know Orban is not that which what that everybody wishes he were was.
It's no great surprise that nobody is better than fags at moralfagging, and it's even less shocking that they get caught out in the end with the release of compromat held on them by...other fags (probably).
Faggots everywhere! That's why we must morally purify public life by de-faggotising and r
Stand by for my next poast, on the Gypsy faggot plague!
That's interesting about the beggar technique. In India they target westerners/foreigners (videshi) the same way by damaging the kid's head. In contrast to Romania, the local Indian police took their cut directly from the beggar women. I don't think there was any hierarchy in the begging culture there, but I may be wrong.
India driving rules: The bigger your vehicle the more right-of-way you have. Buses and trucks are on top and bicycles and pedestrians on the bottom. Although one time a German killed a cow. Stupidly, he stopped and the mob killed him. So, if a real Indian happened to hit a poor kid or force someone else off the road in India, or Africa or wherever, he would just keep going, assuming his car (or power) was bigger.
It sounds like the Roma have adopted a more complex but similar strategy using the Indian concept of bak shish, a bribe really, to deal with all this through an insurance shakedown in cooperation with the police. You expedite the power hierarchy resource extraction formula, as you say.
Here in the States we are approaching this type of thinking in a roundabout way through what I call the sacred-victim, entitled parasite culture (S-VEP). The mechanism, rather than child mutilation (or come to think of it we're there already), is something called "human rights", an idea that the Roma might consider exploitable. All you have to do is BE BORN to a particular race or sex in order to acquire bak shish (rights) in either cash or special treatment. The Philanthropy Complex would love to support the Roma as marginalized victims. They wouldn't need to fake an accident or openly mutilate kids. But then they'd lose agency so maybe the Roma wouldn't like that. I don't know.
When I think about it the Roma/Indian way is more honest and "erect." Yes, they do bad things but at least they're doing it with a certain kind of agency. They know what they are doing is bad but they do it anyway, like Lucifer, I will not serve. The S-VEP just turns humans into cattle, animals without agency, or even the ability to view bribery and corruption as a bad thing.
Great comment; thank you sir
"It sounds like the Roma have adopted a more complex but similar strategy using the Indian concept of bak shish, a bribe really, to deal with all this through an insurance shakedown in cooperation with the police. You expedite the power hierarchy resource extraction formula, as you say."
This is a very interesting parallel that didn't occur to me. Yes--maybe it's survival of NW subcontinental dispute management (VERY INDO-EUROPEAN!)
The thing is though that Romanians in villages also favour informal settlement of 'personal injury claims' (obv the practice is in decline), and I'd be willing to bet the same happens among other rural Balkanoids. You can imagine why: how else are things to be settled when state authority is physically remote and nobody even has insurance?
'The Philanthropy Complex would love to support the Roma as marginalized victims. They wouldn't need to fake an accident or openly mutilate kids.'
Soros/EU/UN (the Philanthropy Complex is nice shorthand) have indeed been meddling in Romanian 'minority rights' for years.
'But then they'd lose agency so maybe the Roma wouldn't like that. I don't know.'
As far as I can make out there are two broad strains of 'thought' among 'Roma community leaders'. One is openly to pursue resources by submitting to Soros/EU/UN meliorism, which would mean subordination of the boolibashas to the Gadje and loss of Gypsy national agency; the other is indirect/covert expolitation of state weakness brought about by meliorist schemes (missus' interaction with police is an example of this strategy in practice).
When I think about it the Roma/Indian way is more honest and "erect."
I agree--much less slavish
'They know what they are doing is bad but they do it anyway, like Lucifer, I will not serve.'
To them, what's good for their group is good--and that's where it ends.
Thanks for your reply and also the great essay.
Have you seen this guy? https://johnpavlovitz.substack.com/p/if-all-immigrants-coming-here-were?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2037902&post_id=149548125&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=ho8ar&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
I haven't yet I have, if you take my meaning. It's poorly-written, emotive goyslop of the type usually dished out by his sort.
This one is a bit out of the ordinary in the sense that if you read just the first few sentence-paragraphs and take out the scare quotes and a few adjectives ('fictional' and so forth) he depicts the reality of things pretty well. He's quite right: if the immigrants were white--or, better, if there weren't any at all--none of what he describes would be happening.
The pro-Brexit official line was anti-Eastern European so I don't know where that is coming from.
True.
People who don't have WINTER in their genetic code are cursed to ever seek energy sources that are available year-round.
It may well be so
Mission failed, we'll get em next time. It was worth a try too. Ours were trying to get into Canada, but the gig was quickly up, because they didn't understand why there are more refugee applications from Hungary than from Afghanistan and Iraq together. Allegedly the locals learned too some terms from our minority like 'csicska'=slave and pursued their tradition of human traficking. But Canada was our garbage dump for a while anyway where we regularly throw off the more insufferable activist types like Landeszmann György("If we were to list the contributions of Jews to Hungarian culture, and if we were to subtract those from Hungary, all that would remain would be baggy trousers and apricot schnapps.") and Mohácsi Viktória (she will come up here later).
I hinted at the previous article about some hierarchy existing and stupidly enough, it's not that different. Except at the top you have the usurers, who make good debt slaves out of their people, making them good for anything. I don't think that I have to explain the usurious interests, but it is not about paying it back, rather about having power over the person. So if you want something with the romungros, you want to visit them. I only hears about the Gábor gypsies engaging in that redistribution of wealth that you described.
Also as I hinted, the Vlachs/Oláhs are much more united. They have their own hierarchy, and they prefer their own much more. In action, it looks like this: in my hometown there are about 3 times as many Romungro than Oláh (75%-25%) and the local gypsy minority government are almost always controlled by the Oláhs. Or during local election, the Romungros can vote on a non-gypsy, but the Oláhs will only vote on a gypsy as a local councillor.
One more anecdotal evidence for the existence of some sort of system: when one of the local bigwigs car got stolen he started to phone around and said that if it won't be there the next morning, there will be heads rolling...his car was back by the next morning.
So yes...it would be interesting what powers the King of Roma title gives you.
Also I thought those buildings were only in Huedin in this number. They are the perfect example what your average Hungarian would call Cigánybarokk(Gypsybaroqe). They are a hilarious sight over there. What I know about those ones, are that they are mostly in England for most of they year, the palaces are almost all empty on the inside (they do decorate a few rooms to show people around) and there might be trouble with their...building quality. Also one of the buildings you put in here has the classic Mercedes symbol finials. So I asked that what's with those and they actually told me that it is an ancient gypsy symbol. A symbol of wealth and affluence...and I get it. I mean...having a Mercedes could mean that you have money so there's that, but it's not an ancient symbol. But I liked that story anyway...it made sense unlike many things they tell you.
Is there any reason why the romanian gypsies are the ones who invaded the West?
I meant these in that way, that there's a lot of gypsies over here and Slovakia (Ukraine) too. Somehow their numbers are much lower and a huge part of them are prostitutes. (At least they do work for their money.) Sometimes you hear that some kid comes and goes to the magical West but they're mostly with their parents while their mothers and sisters are "working".
I wrote under the last post that they're actually doing this pretty well organised. Like every few months they come and go with women to mostly Amsterdam but they have places in Germany and thd Switzerland too. I know that there were some trouble with the big one in Nyíregyháza so our gypsies separated and now doing their own job. Once I joked about how they are kindof working like a team sports club.
So one time, some dudes came from who knows where with their used BMWs and Audis and bought a girl from their family(!). You know, the son is just about to graduate and needs his own used BMW. They actually kindof signed the girl to their own "club". According to my mother there are actual scouts who look around if there's any promising talent in the 15-18 age bracket.
*A brief interruption in the program*
I'm not really present with my own name on any social media. I like that way better(and that was the ethos of the internet when I got my start and I want to follow this noble tradition). Who know me professionally will know how to reach me. I don't think that anyone would come after me or the things I wrote in these parts of the net are so terrible. But what I'm going to write here might bring my IRL person much closer to being out, than I am generally comfortable with.
*And now we're back*
So you can look up Lajos Szögi's name. He was a teacher who was beaten to death in front of her daughters in one of the cripple-hurling incidents. He was also my fathers friend and my teacher.
I hate Zsolt Bayer. He is a Fidesz/Orbán side thought leader propagandist, but what he said is what you should do. Don't stop, step on the gas, don't think about additional casualties and give yourself up at the nearest police station. I said that we did a shitton of work to beat the Fidesz at the town, but you can't leave out Szögi's death in this aspect. People still remember there and if there was a point where people started to questioning(at least locally) the liberal thought and progressives, that was it.
There was another incident where Marian Cozma(Romanian handballer) was stabbed in the heart by again...gypsies. Viktória Mohácsi's fleeing started then because she said that Marian Cozma deserved it, because he MIGHT have called them gypsies. So people told her to go fuck herself and she ran away straight to Canada because she doesn't feel herself safe here. Good riddance.
The truth is, people like to clown Pintér, the interior minister because he said that he will make order in 2 weeks. Yeah...again, your city intelligentsia are whining the loudest but he actually did stepped on some of the overreach of the gypsies. But as we told you, gypsies are always a taboo subject. You will hear about crimes of course, but nothing like around those mid oughts years. And also...the far-right got very strong and every murder and brazen incident just kept the ball rolling. So cripple-hurling is over...anyone with a little bit of memory knows to kill the "pulya" rather than getting themselves killed. (Something, something, one more nail in interpersonal trusts coffin)
There were also reports about them beatinf pregnant women up so the kid comes out retarded and more money and like. Let me tell you, that's fake. They don't need to do that...the incest, the environment and natural accidents ensure them to have enough retarded children. Last time a little girl was raped by her father and became incapacitated. They didn't want to make more cripples, they just self-indulge and making more in the process.
But I can tell you about the homeless mafia(yes...homeless mafia...you read it right). Maybe later.
Because there's mogging the law which is certainly happening. The police in Budapest are actually trustworthy, but don't trust a rural policeman on face-value. There's actually some reason to this. It was said many times about Pintér(the interior minister) that he's mafia and has "connections". (He was actually an investigator in the first ever organised crime group investigation in the country).
So here comes another hot take and I read a lot and spoke with a lot about this. The commie hungarian police was one of the best in the profession and some parts still work very well. This is also because they were involved in almost any crime group and knew their gypsies well. All this came to an end with the joining to the Union. They had to throw out anything connected to racial profiling etc.. and the know-how slowly retired and we were left with the new guard...which are a bunch of corrupt assholes. So we had this guy who started to target me and my friends too. Uhhh...the strictness...while he was impossibly popular among the minorities. I might have said that I was involved in local politics and did some work(solving stuff) for them. And I'm a very spiteful guy if I reach that point. So I might have gathered some "evidence", might have sent some letters, and might have had something with his firing. (Which was bad enough in itself, he postured as an epic scythian hungarist so he was also orbiting our group.) The problem was...that the whole police precinct was complicit in it. There was an action, and everyone was fired while some even went to jail. And so I also had to leave the party. (Okay...I could write a full essay on this -I will- but the grand outline is this.
So you might guess why I said that this might be a great source for identifying me. But fuck...every fucking one of them on the gypsy usurers payroll. And people were surprised that noone was ever caught while sometimes actually knowing the culprit....tshhhhhh
csicska'=slave
How is this pronounced? Does it sound anything like shiksa?
'they actually told me that it is an ancient gypsy symbol'
Folk memory is a marvellous thing... Did you believe em?
'I only hears about the Gábor gypsies engaging in that redistribution of wealth that you described.'
I suppose the distribution of intra-clan spoils is typical of the 'classic' 'paradigmatic' 'ideal' Gypsy social mode. Evidently the reality is more...complex.
'the incest, the environment and natural accidents ensure them to have enough retarded children'
Yes indeed
'Don't stop, step on the gas, don't think about additional casualties and give yourself up at the nearest police station'
He said this?! In what context? After the murder of Lajos Szögi?
'They had to throw out anything connected to racial profiling etc.. and the know-how slowly retired and we were left with the new guard...which are a bunch of corrupt assholes.'
The more I see, the more I come to believe that the fall of communism was (to put it mildly) a swings and roundabouts kind of vibe...
There's so much juice in this comment that you'd be remiss in not turning it into a doctoral thesis under the based and benevolent eye of Budapesti Corvinus Egyetem...
Somewhat like that. I don't know what would be the closest to the hungarian 'cs'. Like the ch? (In Chester or something?)
Of course I didn't believe them. But at least, this once I could see a logical connection between the two (Mercedes car ->wealth).
In a way, we got the same within families. The chinese have those red bags too, where they give money to each other. Think about how in birthdays(as a kid) you get money from the guests and the parents always ask, who gave how much? Because if there's a kid there, they should match it to not lose face.
Yeah, he said that. Because after he swept away the little kid with his car, he stopped to see if everythings alright. The kid had only superficial injuries, ran into the house and you got the screaming gypsy lady go "Kill the Hungarian, because he killed the kid!". Yes...it would count as a hit-and-run...but with these 60 IQ people you might be playing with your lives. Not once the medics were attacked by these idiots because they might have not been able to save the delinquent.
The whole system change was very weird in Hungary. Like the state party sat down with the opposition and they negotiated how they will share the public/common wealth. No one was held accountable. Some of the OG murderous commies died with huge pensions in disgusting prosperity (at least Nicolae and Elena got their well deserved bullets although obviously there are many shenanigans left there too). The state agent lists are kept secret (someone always comes up how they should make them public but it is one of the things where the right and left are absolutely supportive of eachother). Orbáns father was a party secretary. His nemesis's wife's grandfather was the minister of interior during the punishment after 56(he also died without anything). And they are still living in the villa they took from the original owner. Police is a contentious issue obviously, but I would say that they were excellent for the time, but that too changed with the passing of 'existing socialism'. Things changed otherwise too. Like this retired investigator said that how after releasing one of the big dogs, he announced a fucking press conference and from there on they must engage in PR warfare too. Again...I could list the things here until nightfall.
I mean...kinda. Sociologists could have a field day if they came to my hometown but they rather go on to be human rights activists, never experiencing what really goes on 'outside the greater ring road'.(It's an idiom about how they never leave inner Budapest.
Overall, the joining to the EU brought many things, but I think more and more people think that it was quite a Faustian decision. Which is funny because we like to think ourselves as being fully aware of these things and there's the movie Mephisto(Oscar price winner) which is really about this subject.
Yeah I took Hungarian cs to be more or less the same as English ch—which would make it something like chiksa right?
Near enough!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…interactions between diaspora peoples…hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…
Ooops. Now that you mentioned that. But no...apparently it comes from army language.
We use a lot of words originating from the jews and gypsies, so I assumed that it would be too like that.
There must be something between the two though. I think I mentioned that few family names are the same among them, while only mixing rarely. The Jews still holding onto somewhat their old burgher identities, so they really don't like them except the few social activist types.
But then again, I could start categorising the jews (ugh...that sounds wrong) whether they are originally from the cities od countryside, Sephardim-Ashkenazi...even hasidim. Like the communists were full of them but they were almost all from countryside ashkenazi descent. But you can see this in other countries too. It was never the almost assimilated/burghers who were stirring shit.
(Damn it..I did it again...sorry for the digression)
'Ooops. Now that you mentioned that. But no...apparently it comes from army language.'
oh. That's disappointing. But haha ok whatever
'It was never the almost assimilated/burghers who were stirring shit.'
Sure maybe they weren't usually the openly militant genocidal types, but they certainly did more than their share of ethnic self-defence--albeit only, if John Murray Cuddihy is right, out of a mixture of tribal loyalty and sheer embarassment...
'(Damn it..I did it again...sorry for the digression)'
Not in the least sah
Finally got a chance to read through this. And man, Romania is a trip. Of course, after seeing all of this -- the kind of stuff I'll never unsee -- I asked my wife if Hungary is richer than Romania, and she affirmed that no, it is not.
Brutal.
But still! Some of this stuff I just don't even know where to find it over here. Maybe it's all in the countryside and I lack the research; ah well.
Yeah it's pretty wild
'I asked my wife if Hungary is richer than Romania, and she affirmed that no, it is not.'
This is very magnanimous. Let her be reassured however that the difference would tilt massively in Hungary's favour if it wasn't for the GDP-enhancing activities of Romania's much larger Gypsy population *in occidente*.
(no I jest)
'Some of this stuff I just don't even know where to find it over here. Maybe it's all in the countryside and I lack the research'
BASED Orban would never allow it. Come on you know that come on.
She’s a very magnanimous woman; brings out the best in me, you know.
Mayyyyybe you’re right about the fact that Orbán wouldn’t let that happen, but, well… they let a lot of stuff happen. The Hungarian situation is complicated. Gay catholic priests promoting homophobia? CHECK! See for yourself:
https://museonadiet.substack.com/p/hungarian-trains-might-be-late-but
MANY SUCH CASES
No no I was only joking; I know Orban is not that which what that everybody wishes he were was.
It's no great surprise that nobody is better than fags at moralfagging, and it's even less shocking that they get caught out in the end with the release of compromat held on them by...other fags (probably).
Faggots everywhere! That's why we must morally purify public life by de-faggotising and r
Stand by for my next poast, on the Gypsy faggot plague!
I’m not sure if I should be excited or terrified. (:
Americans can't even fathom the depths of hustle inherent in Gypsies.